Driftwood talks continue
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Barbara Diamond
It seems time is not of the essence for negotiations fostered by the
City Council between the developer and neighbors of the proposed
Driftwood subdivision.
“I am pleased with the direction the meetings are going in and we
will have several more,” said Councilman Steven Dicterow, who
represents the council in the negotiations.” We are making great
progress.”
The project has been in the pipeline for more than two years,
partially because of the council’s decision in February to intervene
before taking action on the Planning Commission recommendations.
Dicterow, who generally supports the policy of upholding the
advice of city boards and commissions, not only proposed the
intervention, but fancies the notion that the negotiations might
serve as a model for similar projects.
“Steve believes that he is good at bringing people together and he
has been successful in doing that in several instances,” Planning
Commissioner Norm Grossman said.
“What concerns me is that at the commission level we were very
diligent at having open, public meetings on all aspects of the
project. We held many more meetings than any other jurisdiction I
know of and gave everybody the opportunity to speak and to know what
was going on. This process has been subverted by private meetings.”
The negotiation meetings have not been publicly noticed.
Councilwoman Cheryl Kinsman, who was appointed with Dicterow to the
council subcommittee, has not attended any meetings. She declined to
give a reason.
“Steve has been keeping me informed of the progress of the
committee,” said Kinsman, a former planning commissioner who also
supports the policy of backing boards, commissions and city
committees.
Councilman Wayne Baglin, a proponent of “sunshine government,”
isn’t worried about the non-noticed meetings because no decisions are
being made.
“What Steve is working so hard at is to get compromises between
various parties,” Baglin said. “The general public will be notified
when the council has another hearing. Meantime, anyone who feels left
out should contact the council secretary and asked to be notified of
the meetings.”
Dicterow announced at the June 6 meeting that negotiations were
still underway.
“If we had concluded them, it would be a failure,” Dicterow said.
“The issues are complex and many.”
He declined to set a new deadline for a presentation to the
council because he felt it would change the dynamics of the
negotiations and the resolution of some questions.
“I thought all the questions were answered in the hearings we held
over a period of a year -- not including many one-on-one meetings
between individual commissioners and members of the community,”
Planning Commissioner Anne Johnson said this week.
The Planning Commission and city staff presented an inch-thick
report with recommendations based on 10 public meetings at the Jan.
14 council meeting. The recommendations included approval of a 15-lot
subdivision on 225 acres, with 90% of the acreage dedicated to open
space. Alteration of a significant watercourse was recommended for
safety considerations. No variances -- deviations from usual
requirements -- were requested.
However, the council had questions it wanted answered before
approving the commission recommendations. The meeting was continued
to Feb. 25, at which time Dicterow volunteered to meet with the
developer and the neighbors to try to resolve their differences,
although he had said in January that he didn’t recall ever having
dealt before with a subdivision.
“ ... I would like to get started right away,” said developer
Steve Vliss, who had announced at the meeting a reduction from 15 to
13 lots in the project and a consequent reduction in grading.
Dicterow wasn’t available until mid-March for talks, due to
business obligations, which have made him miss three regular council
meetings and the budget workshop held since the Feb. 25 meeting.
Among the most divisive questions facing the neighborhood was
which street to use for access to the development, although the
environmental study stated there would be no significant impact on
neighborhood traffic.
“Treasure Island showed us what happens to traffic when
development comes in,” Hobo Canyon Neighborhood Assn. founder Penny
Elia said Monday.
Elia is a participant in the negotiating meetings, although she
shies from the phrase.
“We’ve tried very hard to stay away from trade-offs,” said Elia.
“If you make a compromise for one area of the neighborhood, another
area suffers.
“I think part of the challenge at the Planning Commission was
trying to get something together that worked for everybody’s quality
of life. At the last meeting, we all stepped back and said, gosh!
wouldn’t it have been wonderful if we could have started this process
three years ago?
“We are making strides, but it will probably take two or three
more meetings to reach a point where we have discussed everything, I
don’ know that we will ever reach complete agreement, but it won’t be
for lack of trying.”
City Planner Ann Larson said the city is fortunate that developer
Steve Vliss has been open to revisions that meet the concerns of the
staff and the community in spite of the added costs.
“This has been a very long process for a project of this size,”
Larson said. “Something like this wouldn’t even have required an
[impact report] in San Bernardino or Riverside counties. But
developers have to consider the community where they propose a
project.”
Delays in a project can be costly for the developer. Every change
in the Driftwood project has to be reviewed for compatibility with
the environmental report, not to mention consultation with the
developer’s hired fuel modification expert, architect, engineers,
etc.
“You’d like to get started sooner rather than later,” Vliss said.
“The process was little more involved than I expected, but I am not
distraught. We are getting to the point where we can bring closure to
all the open questions.
“It has increased the costs of the project, while we are being
asked to reduce the number of lots, which reduces the potential
profits. Some of the profit reduction will be offset as we continue
to refine the project.”
The California Coastal Commission staff has expressed an interest
in visiting the site, before the project is put on the agenda.
“They called and said their biologist was going to be in the
neighborhood and figured it might be a good idea to stop by,” Larson
said.
Seven findings -- justifications -- must be made to meet the state
Subdivision Map Act requirements for approval of a project.
City staff determined the findings could be made for approval of
the project as recommended by the Planning Commission. Substantial
changes might require a re-circulation of the environmental report if
the potential impacts are greater or greatly different from the
current document.
“It just depends on what we get in front of us,” Larson said.
The Planning Department will have to review any changes for
compliance with city codes and make the appropriate findings,
according to Larson.
“Anything we do must comply with all city zoning codes and
ordinances,” Vliss said. “I am please with the way the project is
shaping up and I am glad we had the opportunity to seek further input
from the neighbors.
“This is a project we believe in and in many ways it is a better
project than when we began.”
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